I Hope This Happens In A Starless Clan

Since TBC is now wrapped up I decided to create a short survey about people’s favourite warriors books, just because I am very curious about how the fandom generally feels. It shouldn’t take too long to complete at all (only a minute or two) and if you can reblog it and share it around that will be extremely appreciated, I want to get as many responses from as many corners of the fandom as possible. You don’t need my permission to share it, just throw the link wherever you see fit lol

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Favourite Warrior Cats Books Poll

I’m curious about what books are people’s favourites so why not. Please share this poll with as many people as you can.

Thanks for your time!

I have no set date of when I will end it, I want to give it at least a month, but I’ll basically stop it after a period of lack of responses. I will share the results on this blog once I close the survey.

Progress Pic of my Bristlefrost drowning art!

Okay I feel like for the “Seven Greatest Demigods”, their entrances were anticlimactic.

Hazel Levesque? Brought back from the dead after saving the world single handedly. Yes. Good. Definitely Seven worthy. But if her first appearance had been in the underworld, that would have been like- whoa. We’re about to find the most powerful demigod of all time. We’re finding her in the fields of asphodel. She has suffered and rebelled against Gaea, the earth mother. One of the Seven greatest indeed. The underworld would be described much differently from the POV of someone dead. Or hell- we could have seen her die first, and then the time skip would have been very interesting to see from her POV. when we meet her she’s had six months of adjustment in the over world. If we got to read firsthand how it felt to know that she was destroying herself and her mother, and then sacrificing her chance at Elysium for her mother not to get the fields of punishment... that would have been heartbreaking. Plus we would get to see Nico come to her, which would be exciting- like “we’re going to meet all the demigods of the future!! Woohoo!” That would have been the coolest. Definitely would have sold me for the “big three kids are insanely powerful”

I wouldn’t change her backstory at all- other than getting rid of Sammy’s relation to Leo- just the time that she’s introduced is different.

For Leo, I’m also keeping the backstory, but probably not the wilderness school. No fake Jason memories, because I feel like that just made their relationships (Jason, Piper, Leo) start off very strangely.

We would meet him while he’s running from another foster home. I’d like to be introduced to the sneaky side of him pretty early, like watching him get out of the house undetected, using his gadgets to pick locks or even keep his foster parents locked inside. His backstory is so very important to him, but I never really felt that he confronted the part of his past when he was on the run/abused in foster homes. Fire isn’t mentioned yet- I love the way his fire was introduced in TLH, so I’d keep the fire a secret until then. One way or another he makes it to camp, and gets claimed right away. But we need to see who they are before they’re the demigods of the prophecy, because we never got to know who Leo was or how his life was before he was on a quest. This way it’s more personal.

(However I would be open to him going to the wilderness school before camp, which is where he and Piper meet and are best friends)

For Frank, I’m going to say CHANGE THE BACKSTORY.

it took so long to figure out what his powers were and his grandma was so frustratingly vague about it that I almost didn’t care by the time he actually found out because I had guessed it myself already. Also, how many of these moms are fucking dead? We can’t have the same shit over and over. Dead parents isn’t the only angst you can have. (Leo and Hazel’s mothers dying are probably the only one’s I’d keep dead) I think his mother would have taught him how to use the powers that they share- I’d love to see the Zhang family dynamic being a happier side of the story. His grandma being so strict and his mother being so fierce and wanting to be a hero while Frank is kind and sweet. I think that Frank’s mother’s longing to be a hero would be interesting for her to watch her son live out her dream. Based on what we know about her, she would be ridiculously proud, but jealousssss.

We would probably meet frank while he is transformed into some sort of animal. His mother is telling him to focus, and it takes him a while to change back. We learn that out of the Zhang family, Frank is the slowest learner for shapeshifting. While his mom is endlessly patient, his grandmother is not. He’s sent to camp so that he can learn to use his powers. Frank is insecure about this.

ALSO: He is not afraid of Nico. At no point does he look at Nico and say that thing is creepy. He is like poor kid I am your big brother now. (He’s got paternal instincts like his mama)

Frazel doesn’t happen. Sorry guys but first of all they were boring second of all it was a weird age gap and third of all weird love triangle.

So he’s just a big brother figure to the underworld kids.

Trans frank, frank stays fat and there is no weird magical “glow up”

Jason Grace

My boy. Same backstory. But it actually AFFECTS him. Like we see the result of him going through all of this trauma. This would come slowly, of course, because the whole point of his character is that he is Hera’s “Chosen One”. think of that one guy from Star Wars who used to be an army thingy?? (With the white armour) yeah so like the whole “emotionless soldier” making friends and learning to care for them and for himself means a lot to me so he would be like that. Also he would NOT know what to do with Leo, who is the embodiment of: 😈, while he is the embodiment of:😶. So I would include much more dad friend Jason keeping Piper and Leo on a leash, while also trying to follow their lead on being a Normal Teenager 👍. (They are setting the worst example, frank saves him later)

I don’t know about having the deleted memories, because while I love that idea I also think we’d get to know him a lot better without it. Percy is okay to have lost his memories because we know him. But we don’t know Jason. But I also just love empty head Jason.

The “catch me!” Scene wouldn’t happen, it would take more time to find out he’s the son of Jupiter. Lol idk when, but there should have been more foreshadowing like:

“He should have gone inside, really, but he felt so drawn to the storm. Standing outside, his clothes were drenched in rain, and he felt the thunder in his bones before he heard it. This is how it would feel, he thought, to remember.”

I also think we deserved one scene of him crying in the rain, wondering who is and why he knows how to fight better than how to be a person.

MORE JASON ANGST !!

We don’t do Jasiper

Also Valgrace (slow burn) Piper is queer (we don’t know her sexuality yet so)

Piper. Oh Piper. My girl

I am so sorry for what RR did to you.

She is not a kleptomaniac. She is much better representation for Indigenous people. She has brown eyes. She does not wear feathers. She does not immediately fall in love and chase after a boy for the entire book series. She isn’t written in a misogynistic way, and is allowed to express herself however she wants. (This goes for ALL the rep in HOO actually)

The inner turmoil she faces when deciding whether or not to betray her friends is still there, but we meet her in the wilderness school with an unexpected best friend Leo Valdez. (They’ve just met recently) she instead uses her charmspeak when she really wants something, but it’s all by accident. Like “Can we reschedule the test?” Or “Can I please not run a mile?”. She has her “I am supreme lord of the bathroom” moment, where her charmspeak helps her out of a tight spot (either with Dylan or her racist classmates) she probably embarrasses them or reveals Dylan is a ventus. Piper and Leo dynamic duo while hiding from coach hedge yeah yeah.

Jason shows up and they are like. Who are you wtf. That’s funnier than them knowing who he is anyway.

(Piper learns of her singing charm speak earlier on, and perhaps she sings a Cherokee song, because even without charm speak native music is extremely powerful.)

Annabeth trains Piper for fighting (with a knife) which is how we meet her. Hazel teaches Piper how to sword fight later on.

So I feel that Frank and Piper and Leo grow into their powers a lot, but we see their potential while meeting them.

As we go on, they’re powers are expanded on.

But Jason and Hazel are a bit more powerful from the get go, so we’re just like alright these are the power houses, but then we see the rest of them grow and we’re like okay they are ALL powerhouses this is great.

actually the idea that tallstar’s kin just has a genetic predisposition of being attracted to jake’s lineage lol

like tallstar was attracted to jake

onestar, tallstar’s nephew, was attracted to firestar

crowfeather, onestar’s nephew, was attracted to leafpool

and heathertail, onestar’s daughter, was attracted to lionblaze lol

the fourth apprentice

fireheart calm down it’s part of cinderpaw’s training

(original)

longfire is messed up. firestar was a KITTEN when he joined the clans, and longtail was a young ADULT. i genuinely don’t get how people ship them.

Time snake challenge!

Okay so if I put my utter horror of this idea aside, I can just about being myself to think this over.

To me, this would be one of the worst writing decisions made. Not in Warriors. In literature itself. What the hell would be the point of this? Believe it or not, this would make Squirrelflights Hope an even bigger disgrace of a book than it already is!

There is literally no point in having a character come back from the dead in one book if you’re just going to kill them off for real not even four years later! That would just be a tactic by the team to piss off the fanbase! I don’t think they’re blind to how popular Squilf is, so to kill her off permanently after a full book about her coming back from the dead once before would not only make the “journey” of that book utterly pointless, it would demean the impact of the characters and the whole series in general! It would also demean her journey in the current series; what’s the point of her fighting to be with Bramble again if they’re just going to separate them at the end by having her be the one who’s dead this time?! And before anyone says, oh but that would be the same if Bramble is the one who dies, no it’s not, because Darkness Within had the idea that Squirrel needed to come to terms with the fact that Bramble wasn’t coming back, therefore foreshadowing his permanent death. If they just Uno Reverse the two at the end, it’s purely based on a sense of bias by the writers, because that would be a terrible writing decision.

This would be like bringing back Spider Man or Doctor Strange in Endgame just to kill them off at the end of the movie! Or like when Harry Potter was revived at the end of Deathly Hallows just to kill him off ten seconds later! It’s complete bullshit!

So yeah, I don’t think this will happen, but if it does... By God does it prove how shitty the writing team for this series actually was. I am being fully serious when I say that in the small chance this scenario occurs, I am never coming back to this damn series again!