I Saw Your 1989 Rewatch Post And I Was Wondering About Your Comment: The New York Story Still Continues.

I saw your 1989 rewatch post and i was wondering about your comment: the New York story still continues.

I think in this side of swiftie fandom we can agree new york is karlie. However, I have seen so many analysis and lyric parallels of New York symbolism as proof of a kaylor break up.

I believe kaylor is still together, but I am having a tough time with what new york means after folklore and evermore. “I left a part of me back in New York” “she still is 23 inside her fantasy,” all of coney island paint at not so great picture compare to the new york of Lover.

What are your thoughts?

Sorry in advance if this sounds like rambling

She is still in New York regardless of how sad the songs sound. The story is still tied to New York.

I think there is this weird thing we tend to do when Taylor writes a sad song. We automatically assume it’s about a romantic break up and I think that is a product of her old reputation, sadly.

I think Taylor recognizes love is a lot more complex than Romeo and Juliet and it comes with ups and downs. We saw this on Lover. Riding the highs and treading the lows but all the while just hoping to get back to mundanity and normality. I think Taylor realized the lows and the highs make for a more entertaining story so she takes snapshots and zooms in on specific feelings and moments from her past and explores the stories that can come from them with new perspectives.

I also believe Taylor has been singing about her own personal journey and her struggles with anxiety. As well as her choices that led to a specific place or point in time and fighting her own demons while worrying about how someone could love her with her flaws. These concepts were on Lover as well.

Folklore and evermore honestly feel like purgatory to me, if that makes sense. They exist in a pocket dimension where Taylor is wandering around an old abandon town with no choice but to reflect on her past. She is forced to face her demons. She can’t hide from her thoughts. And sooner or later she realizes that the only way out is through and maybe if requires leaving all the baggage behind because you can’t leave the same way you came in.

“You know I left a part of me back in New York” means exactly that: She left part of herself in New York. (She had to leave something behind but she didn’t want to).

I Saw Your 1989 Rewatch Post And I Was Wondering About Your Comment: The New York Story Still Continues.

Conclusion:

The story is still in New York. Just on the outskirts of town. Coney Island is still in New York. It’s in Brooklyn. She did her photoshoot for the albums in Upstate New York.

She’s still writing the story:

“If the story's over. Why am I still writing pages?” - DBATC

“Pages turn and stick to each other” - RWYLM

I’m sorry again if this was rambly.

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But wait SR, what if, WHAT IF, KK attends SNL tomorrow because they actually met in the Red era and it’s the 13th! I will literally die, dead 💀 like my soul will leave my body, if she makes an appearance at the show or the after party.

C’Mon Taylor honor your vow and be over dramatic to commemorate the day you met your lover! 🥰 we have full faith in you!!!

3 years ago

Louis & Taylor are best gay besties.

Here’s why:

Louis’s infamous “if that” expression of distaste towards Haylor was immediately followed by him saying “I’ve met her before, she’s a lovely girl.”

Not only that, he mentioned how great she is UNPROMPTED at least twice in his interview with Forbes and Telegraph.

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They literally partied together.

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Taylor’s AT&T NOW commercial ft. Her locked in the closet, her climbing out of the closet through the air vent before arriving in the studio to record music.

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Taylor’s AT&T NOW commercial also included her googling the picture she saw on a guy’s shirt.

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Louis wearing MJ’s Billie Jean t-shirt in Back To You teaser for everyone to Google the lyrics: Billie Jean is not my lover. She's just a girl who claims that I am the one. But the kid is not my son

In another commercial, Taylor wore rainbow, and rode a unicorn cat. (Hint: What word did Harry use to call a cat and got grounded for being inappropriate?)

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Louis’s rainbow Apple t-shirt which led to the Bullshit 2.0 and the dagger tattoo, probably.

Oh yeah, let’s talk about tattoos.

1. Harry, birds don’t have eyebrows. (They kinda do. But it’s a meme at this point.)

2. Louis, Kevin is a pigeon, not a swift bird. HOW COULD YOU?

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Or that Louis’s song Fearless seemingly referenced Karlie Kloss as the second wife of Taylor in (colourful) Suit & Tie era, aka Lover. Just for the first Taylor’s Version album to be FEARLESS.

It’s almost like they’re all closeted queers in the same industry or a Copy of A Copy of A Copy or something.

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3 years ago

Did you ever realize how in the Lover video Taylor 'lassoed' her lover like a cowboy would do? And then how Karlie posted on IG 6/25/19 "My Cowboy" (wyoming stunt that had a bunch of rich business people there, not friends), and then the Lover video came out on 9/22/19 so Taylor was nodding to that? How Karlie's a cowboy like her, conning all the rich folks? I swear to god these women! They've got some tricks up their sleeve, takes one to know one! Bandits riding away into the sunset.

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3 years ago

Hiii can you do the pronouns percentage with lover and folklore in? I've just seen the one with rep included but FOLKLORE IS SO GAY. Also you're doing gods work thank you so much 💕

Hi! I’ve updated the charts to include Folklore - there is actually already a post which includes the pronouns from Lover (here) if you’re interested to see what has and hasn’t changed.

As always, the songs not included in these charts are those from Taylor’s unreleased catalogue; those for which Taylor is credited as co-writer, but which were released by another artist (e.g. Kellie Pickler’s ‘Best Days of Your Life’); and her OSTs (Eyes Open, Safe and Sound, Sweeter Than Fiction, I Don’t Wanna Live Forever and Beautiful Ghosts).

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The charts are organised as follows below.

Songs with unqualified “male” (pro)nouns — “he” functions as Taylor’s primary romantic interest:

Tim McGraw

Teardrops on My Guitar

Stay Beautiful

I'd Lie

Fifteen

Hey Stephen

Forever & Always

I’m Only Me When I’m With You – “Just a small-town boy and girl”

Today Was a Fairy-tale – ‘You were the prince/ I used to be a damsel in distress’

Dear John

Better Than Revenge

Superman

Red

I Knew You Were Trouble

The Moment I Knew

Girl at Home

Blank Space — “You're the King, baby, I'm your Queen”

Style

Shake It Off

Wildest Dreams

You Are in Love

…Ready for It

I Did Something Bad

King of my heart – “King of my heart, body and soul”

Call It What You Want

Better Man — “I wish you were a better man”

Cruel Summer – “He looks up grinning like a devil”

Lover – “I take this magnetic force of a man to be my lover”

I Think He Knows

Paper Rings – “Wrap your arms around me, baby boy”

London Boy

Songs with qualified “male” pronouns:

Tied Together with a Smile — not autobiographical.

Our Song — uses reversed perspective.

Love Story — uses reversed perspective.

The Way I Loved You – constructs an opposition between ‘he’ and the gender non-specific ‘you,’ who is the true romantic interest.

Haunted — constructs an opposition between ‘he’ and the gender non-specific ‘you,’ who is the true romantic interest.

Speak Now — uses reversed perspective.

Starlight — not autobiographical.

Begin Again — constructs an opposition between ‘he’ and the gender non-specific ‘you,’ who is the true romantic interest.

New Romantics — it is (arguably) unclear whether the single male pronoun refers to a romantic interest of Taylor’s own (or of her fellow new romantics).

Don’t Blame Me — Taylor’s primary romantic interest is the gender non-specific ‘you,’ however note: ‘I’ve been breakin' hearts a long time, and/toyin’ with them older guys.’

Gorgeous — constructs an opposition between ‘he’/ ‘a boyfriend’ and the gender non-specific ‘you,’ who is the true romantic interest.

Getaway Car —constructs an opposition between ‘he’ and the gender non-specific ‘you,’ who is the true romantic interest.

Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince – it is not only arguable that the ‘heartbreak prince’ is independently a gender-neutral epithet (as claimed by Halsey) but also that “me” and “the heartbreak prince” is the proper syntactic pair (“it’s you and me…Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince”)

Songs with “female” (pro)nouns:

 A Place in This World — ‘girl’ is self-referential. The song’s subject is not romantic in nature.

Should've Said No — ‘her’ refers to the third party in Taylor’s relationship with a romantic interest whose gender is non-specific (you).

Mary's Song (Oh My My My)

Invisible — ‘she’ refers to Taylor’s rival for the affection of a romantic interest whose gender in non-specific (you).

The Other Side of the Door — ‘she’ refers to the third party in Taylor’s relationship with a romantic interest whose gender is non-specific (you).

White Horse — ‘she’ refers to the third party in Taylor’s relationship with a romantic interest whose gender is non-specific (you).

You Belong with Me — ‘she’ refers to the third party in Taylor’s relationship with a romantic interest whose gender is non-specific (you).

Mine — uses reversed perspective; ‘she’ is self-referential. Taylor’s romantic interest is gender non-specific (you).

How You Get the Girl — ‘her’ may refer either to Taylor herself or to her romantic interest.

This is what you came for

Babe — ‘her’ refers to the third party in Taylor’s relationship w/ a romantic interest whose gender is non-specific (you).

End Game — ‘girl’ occurs only in the featured parts. Taylor’s own romantic interest is gender non-specific (you).

The Man – “what’s it like to brag about…getting bitches and models.”  

ME! – “baby girl when it comes to a lover.” Note that “you’re the kind of guy the ladies want” is implicitly contrasted with “and there’s a lot of cool chicks out there” which is the “one of these things” that “is not like the others, like a rainbow with all of the colours.” Taylor has further stated that ME! Is her first song about “baby chickens.”

The Last Great American Dynasty — “she” refers to Rebekah Harkness, the biographical subject.  

Mad Woman — “she” is the wife of the subject “you,” rather than a romantic interest of the persona “I”.

Betty — uses reversed perspective, although the argument can also be made that actually “James” is a girl/Taylor herself.

Songs with gender-neutral pronouns:

Picture to Burn

Cold as You

The Outside

A Perfectly Good Heart

Jump Then Fall

Untouchable

Come in with the Rain

Superstar

Fearless

Breathe

Tell Me Why

You're Not Sorry

The Best Day — the lyrics are not romantic.

Change — the lyrics are not romantic.

Beautiful Eyes

I heart?

Sparks Fly

Back to December

Mean — the lyrics are not romantic.

The Story of Us

Never Grow Up — the lyrics are not romantic.

Enchanted

Innocent

Last Kiss

Long Live

Ours

If This Was a Movie

Crazier

Christmases When You Were Mine

Christmas Must Be Something More

State of Grace

Treacherous

All Too Well

22

I Almost Do

We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together

Stay Stay Stay

The Last Time

Holy Ground

Sad Beautiful Tragic

The Lucky One

Everything Has Changed

Come Back... Be Here

Welcome to New York – note, however: “you can want who you want, boys and boys and girls and girls.”

Out of the Woods

All You Had to Do Was Stay

I Wish You Would

Bad Blood

This Love

I Know Places

Clean

Wonderland

Look What You Made Me Do

So It Goes

Delicate

Dancing with Our Hands Tied

Dress

This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things — the lyrics are not romantic.

New Year’s Day

I Forgot That You Existed

The Archer

Cornelia Street

Death by a Thousand Cuts

Soon You’ll Get Better – the lyrics are not romantic

False God

You Need to Calm Down – (i.) the lyrics are not romantic and (ii.) both “my gown” and “his gown” are subsumed by “our gowns.”

Afterglow

It’s Nice to Have a Friend

Daylight

Christmas Tree Farm

Only the Young – the lyrics are not romantic.

The 1

Cardigan

Exile  — in lyrical terms, the love interest is gender neutral (“you”); the pronoun “he” describes this “you’s” new lover.

My Tears Ricochet

Mirrorball

Seven — the pronouns are gender neutral (“you”) but the love interest is, arguably, female coded. Thus “your braids like a pattern” and “pack your dolls and a sweater.”

August

This is me trying

Illicit Affairs —  the love interest’s pronouns are gender neutral (“you”). However, they are arguably female coded. Thus, “leave the perfume on the shelf that you picked out just for him.”

Invisible String — the love interest’s pronouns are gender neutral (“you”). Note, however, “for the boys who broke my heart.”

Epiphany — the lyrics are not romantic

Peace

Hoax

The Lakes

4 years ago

Karlie's 13 MINUTES long playlist from MARCH 5th

SHE SHINES ME UP LIKE GOLD ON MY ARM

I LOVE TO SEE HER FACE IN DAYLIGHT

THAT THE LOVE IS REAL

THAT THE SHOE MIGHT FIT

WILL SHE HAVE MY KIDS?

WILL SHE BE MY WIFE?

Karlie's 13 MINUTES Long Playlist From MARCH 5th
Karlie's 13 MINUTES Long Playlist From MARCH 5th
Karlie's 13 MINUTES Long Playlist From MARCH 5th

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