I Started On A Bust Sculpt Of Max From Life Is Strange But I Think I Will Scrap It And Make A Bigger

Really low prices make me less likely to commission an artist. Me: I’m not an artist. I do commission artists - I spend around $300-600 a month on digital art commissions. I sometimes find an artist who has really impressive work, or a unique style, or something else that makes me think “I should commission this person.”. Then I look at their prices and they are crazily low. As in less than 20 dollars for a colour full body character. And I don’t commission them. Because I can’t pay prices that low and feel good about myself for doing it. I know it takes hours to draw even one character. Plus the time it takes to study the brief, look at the references, communicate with me, etc etc. No way are they making even minimum wage this way, let alone a living wage. I commission art because it’s fun. It’s my hobby. If I’m knowingly paying someone slave wages to support my hobby, it isn’t fun. To artists who undercharge: Please reconsider. I’ve heard many reasons why you decide to do this (see below). But if you price your work like you don’t respect it, you won’t get clients who will respect you or your work either. You charge peanuts, you get monkeys. To commissioners who push for these prices: Have some respect. Not just for the artists, but for the other commissioners out there. You’re giving us all a bad name. If you can’t afford decent prices, don’t be mean about it. Save up, or find some other hobby. Or hey, learn to draw.

Comments I get whenever I say the above:

“No-one will buy commissions from me at decent prices.” - That’s a pity. But you realise by underpricing like this you are making your problem worse, by contributing to the “art should be dirt cheap” mindset that seems to exist in dA and other places? (okay mostly dA, that place is a cesspit) Besides, there are other things you can do than keep lowering prices. There’s tons of advice in dA: ‘Official’ Pricing Your Commissions or Artwork Thread Finding Freelance work: pricing and self doubt! And other places: How to get commissions: A guide Getting the Most Out of Commissions If none of the above helps you… maybe you need to reconsider if you are at the right stage in your development to be offering commissions. Sorry.

“I’m only doing this for fun, I don’t care about the money.” - Good for you. But there are others that are trying to make a living doing this. Have some consideration for them, yes?

“It’s the clients pushing my prices down.” - Gah. Then your clients are awful people who don’t respect you. It’s a trap though - you charge low prices, you get cheap clients. There’s only one way out of that trap.

(Commissioner says) “But I want this drawn and I can’t afford higher prices.” - I want to live in an exact replica of Wayne Manor, but I can’t afford that. So, um, I don’t. Simplify your idea, or don’t commission it until you can afford to do so without ripping off the artist.

(Commissioner says) “By paying less per artist I can support more artists.” - No. Just… no. You are not supporting artists, you are exploiting them. Paying less per artists lets you exploit more artists.

“Just tip the artist.” - I have done that, but it sends the wrong message. Tipping isn’t the norm in this game, so when I tip artists assume it’s because they did an extra-awesome job, when in fact I’m tipping them because they did their normal-awesome job. Plus if an artist is charging one-third or one-quarter what they should be, do I tip them 300%?

(Image by me. Not an artist, remember? The price list is made up, but based on real lists I’ve seen recently.)

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I forgot to post this, I didn't remember until I was looking through all my photos.~~~I made this awhile back, this was a commission.~~~Was very fun to paint :D~~~there is a little amethyst in the chest.

I haven't much to post because of tedious painting 8) I got a laptop recently but havent felt like investing time in drawing on it yet.

Some random up closeness from the last Lapis picture I made. :D

yee

This may be very long, I'm sorry, It's something I hope gets read.

Random thoughts~ I hate seeing so much negativity everywhere. I'm not going to be specific about anything but I hope I can explain the best I can. First I'd like to say it is impossible for ME to shorten this. My thought process can't fathom how to compress thoughts. It seems people everywhere have a huge lack of empathy, unable to think of how someone elses life may be, as well as how certain things effect them in their life, their reactions. The thing that REALLY bothers me is I see all these people heavily badmouthing, insulting, making jokes at people they used to claim to admire. In reality I've NEVER seen anyone leave a friendship or something similar for a few bad events, I've seen everyone do things much, much worse. (Without even knowing half the story who are immediate friends at times.) The thing as well though is things are circumstantial, theres no way to know whats going on by just observing, its gossip, its horrible. I know certain people from totally different point of views than others, and just from that it honestly disgusts me to see what people say. I might slightly be going in circles here but I see it as the worst type of hypocrisy when this situation kinda arises: -people do a possibly negative thing in response to others being rude, possibly annoying, etc.- Or -people react badly to something or in an unacceptable way- And in response I see people reacting in the same way but sometimes worse than the people they are reacting to. That in itself isn't a big deal but what IS, is when i see people months after something STILL talking badly and insulting anything related in a joking fashion. Thats just spreading negativity and just stirring up things people shouldn't be involved with in the first place. People aren't your personal tv show even when it involves people doing that for a living. It also bothers me seeing people trying to invalidate mental illness and certain disorders. Why? Because I have to live with the same thing through out my life. I CAN'T control how I react to people, I DON'T realize when I'm mean, the feeling passes over me but its like the "one ear out the other" thing, or when you have a gut feeling but ignore it. And its scary when the exact fears kinda come to the surface. Let me just say, this is the only way I can describe anything right now. "You can't explain to a person who has been blind all their life what SEEING actually looks like, just as you can't imagine a new color." What that means is just because you experience life one way doesnt mean someone else feels the same things as you, some have to deal with things that are unimaginable even though some may see it as petty and dumb. No ones in "the right" or "the wrong" things like this happen and it sucks. The thing is, things like these are things that need to be WORKED THROUGH, at that no one should be condemned by things like this either, at that by ones not even involved, even if its just a friend of a friend. I say this because I deal with things like this all my life, as I'm sure plently of others have as well. I have severe anxiety, tourette's, depression, and bpd. (Tourettes in itself is a bundle of disorders and junk.) _________ (I may be getting too personal within my own life here but I feel its the only way I can get my message through.) These right here are the exact reasons why I dont talk to people online or in real life. As certain individuals do, i react harshly, I dont realize it, combined with that the anxiety is a catalyst to being unable to control tics from my tourettes. The problem within that is my second set of tics that come out involve actual outwardly physical things such as: hitting others, Things, Squeezing things, breaking things in half without realizing it, etc. I've been arrested for things I can't physically control, Ive been called evil, a bitch, crazy, a demon, monster, It really hurts. (The charges were able to be dropped luckily, didn't stop all the trauma it caused.) I can guarantee you no one can even imagine what it feels like. Just because two people have the same/similar illness, life, experiences,etc. Doesn't mean they are supposed to be an exact copy on how they react. __________ I try to only post art on here, I am honestly afraid to directly communicate with anyone, I have a hard time even replying to others. I am posting this here because I feel maybe it would be okay to say something for once. (I haven't posted in forever though due to computer problems, and skill honing with art in general. Not satisfied). _______ I'd also like to say it extremelly pisses me off that just because people only see things from their view and word of mouth that they automatically label someone as a monster, spineless, a flat out bad person, etc. Yet just because you see that you try to push the fact theyre a bad person who should be disliked. But what you dont know is those same people/person could have seriously saved a person/peoples lives behind the scenes, that the/those same individual(s) you claim to be monsters could have been the best thing to occur in someone elses life, many even. Why does a few things make someone a bad person? And why do people mock others when they respond with "no ones perfect." Because its true. I've noticed from other sites and things not involving certain topics here that there is a mob mentality to things. I have been trying to become more social by taking part in discussions. The thing ive noticed is on the "normal" parts of, let us say Facebook for instance, most people rule on the opinion part no matter how messed up the opinion is, while people who try to come in with actual discussion or kinder opinions get attacked, everyone says how wrong and dumb they are if you make one slip up. On the other hand... Being on Facebook with a psychology group, those same posts, same topics are seen at rationally without heavy opinions, problem solving without creating conflict. That is what needs to be done here and in life in general. Of coarse I could still say this is all just my opinion, just one I feel needs to be said. I'm pretty sure I cant cover every single little detail here, there will always be a "loophole" people will abuse in someones words or actions. Thank you if anyone read this, though vague I hope it makes sense.

this is me being organized, others tell me messy but everything is placed for convenience, think of an art programs setup, mines all customized for ease of use. Ugh, apparently me doing art is useless I'm told since it's not bringing in money (well sorry that I'm trying to establish the means nessesary to be productive first, to gather the knowledge and skills needed to work in a timely matter, get the materials to make things more efficient, and the time to do the stuff needed just to do this. Already had everything else I care about taken away so why not the last thing I have right?) Anyways, finally unpacked my art stuff, finally moved without breaking my stuff: D HAD to remix all my paints AGAIN after lack of use (was using tinfoil, now using 1$ store stacked pill containers for paint.) I need to get back into drawing, might start off by trying to draw out designs/proportions for future sculptures, or idk, drawing I love but it's hard to stay motivated on it. (I need to actually use my computer again, haven't in quite a long while.) Sorry don't get how me posting a picture turned into a weird vent thing.

doodle thing

Messy work in progress, sudden inspiration came from nowhere. I have no clue where I'm going with this exactly but I haven't done something like this in awhile and need a more relaxed piece to work on. :D Cry and at least five sup guys hopefully. If I had to say anything, sitting on a cliff while the sun rises in some sorta place, looking over something possibly, like a town or idk.