Their ages make literally no sense if the character cards are accurate. They are twins and squirmy is said to be 15 however they were 12 at the end of D3 meanwhile Red and Chloe are said to be 18 which means 2 years have passed. Which in turn means it has only been 3 years since D3 ended which makes no sense.
This would mean that RoR takes place a year after D3 which again means that it had been at maximum 6 months since Bal's wedding (probably less because planning a royal wedding takes a lot of tie) before they decided to fuck of to go to distant land which again makes no sense because you just released all the villains and there descendants from the isle.
It would also mean Uma would be like 19-20 when she was made principal which again makes no sense. She says its been 30 years in RoR since auaradon was created meanwhile in D1 Mal says its bee 20 years. I personally assume they are rounding up but it still makes no sense. Meanwhile Morgan (I believe it is morgan) says its only been a few years but now the maths says its one?
What the Hell is this? Get your timeline straight.
I actually feel like it makes more sense for Max to be the son of Maddox rather than the son of the Mad hatter. I only found out today but the actor who plays Maddox (Leonardo Nam) is 45 years old and is turning 46 at the end of this year while the actor who is playing Max (Brendon Tremblay) is 21 years old.
Oh also Max's real name is Maxwell Tarrant Hightopp Hatter (My opinion). I don't like how all the names are basically shortened names of parents so Maxwell. Tarrant and Hightopp both come from the fact that in a version of the mad hatter his real name is Tarrant Hightopp so Maddox is honouring his father and the Hatter part is from the Mad hatter keeping his last name while also embracing his title.
I love this idea! Having Alice in Wonderland be reversed in the movie is such an interesting concept.
I know it will not happen but alternatively imagine Fairy Godmother (her actress has been confirmed to return) as the Villian in RoR 2. They downplay her so bad in descendant for the sake of others. #Let Fairy Godmother use her wand 2026. But imagine if the possessor of one of the most powerful objects in auradon and the caster of the Barrier spell was evil in this timeline.
Okay but is it bad to say upon hearing Rise of Red sequel has a new villain who seeks to take over Wonderland and have its power, I assumed it'd be a messed up version of Alice? The description for the film DOES say Red and Chloe have to face consquiences of time travel...and what's a bigger consquience then the changes to the story of Alice In Wonderland and in the process, Alice herself??? Granted its Descendants...so they wouldn't even consider it but like...
My Kwami OCs (for concepts beginning with A)
Leeo the Pangolin of Abduction Thanne the Basilisk of Aberration Yeex the Pony of Ability Lymm the Siphonophore of Abnormality Arro the Orange-Bellied Parrot of Absence Tarro the Tarsier of Absolution Xuush the Duck of Abstraction Wakki the Bat-Eared Fox of Absurdity Zippi the Opossum of Abundance Suuri the Cheetah of Acceleration Ejaab the Capybara of Acceptance Foorii the Wood Frig of Accomplishment Willow the German Shepard of Accountability Raavi the Red Panda of Accuracy Azza the Echidna of Accusations Dii the Dingo of Acknowledgement Erri the Amur Leopard of Acquisition Bluur the Pink Dolphin of Action Oomur the Okapi of Activation Zoor the Boar of Adamance Meetis the Camel of Adaptation Yeers the Saola of Adhesion Karkk the Elephant Shrew of Adjacency Radaar the Tiliger of Adjudication Skii the Maned Wolf of Adjustment Addla the jaguarundi of Admission Barkk the Dog of Adoration Diisu the Chameleon of Advantage Dorri the Dolphin of Adventure Thorrn the Thorny Devil of Adversity Baal the Chickaree of Aether Lieeb the Swan of Affection Meep the Sugar Glider of Affinity Ohhi the Degu of Affirmation Growll the Jaguar of Aggression Fastii Gazelle of Agility Aalypos the Wasp of Agony Dissea the Blue-Ringed Octopus of Ailment Aazm the Hummingbird of Aim Auura the Finch of Air Chirrp the Squirrel of Alertness Fliicker the Dragonfly of Alteration Terri the Pterodactyl of Alteration Spinn the Baryonyx of Altruism Astoon the Polar Bear of Amazement Suup the Hoopoe of Ambiguity Remm the Artic Tern of Ambition Didii the Vaquita of Amendment Chimmp the Chimpanzee of Amnesia Quiir the Ant of Amplification Mynxx the Marble Cocker-Spaniel of Amusement Flarre the Honey Badger of Anger Anno the Worm of Animation Teek the Addax of Animosity Twiis the Scorpion of Annihilation Halli the Corncrake of Annotation Zaara the Hyena of Annoyance Sagaan the Aye-Aye of Anomalistic Eericc the Axolotl of Anonymity Hoot the Owl of Answers the Cape Buffalo of Antagonization Jaanga the Long-Tailed Tit of Anticipation Tiimid the Chimpanzee of Anxiety Cieel the Jelly Fish of Apathy Janna the Lamb of Apotheosis Bliing the Peacock of Appearance Beauu the Scarlet Macaw of Appearance Kovvu the Bowerbird of Appeasement Caal the Blue Whale of Appetite Gaab the Elk of Application Azzad the Seal of Apprehension Fulii the Barracuda of Argumentation Gigi the Goose of Arrogance Pyrro the Fire Ant of Arson Hizz the Ram of Artistry Roo the White Tern of Ascension Mimmi the Mosquito of Assassination Ortizz the Toad of Assertion Uttive the Quokka of Assimilation Innaya the Emperor Penguin Assistance Wiido the Grandala of Atrocity Yeelp the Siberian Husky of Attention Skii Donkey of Attentiveness Flammo the Flamingo of Attraction Asskari the Ferret of Attribution Ranni the Jackle of Audacity Prieel the Squirrel of Authenticity Eeve the Eagle of Authority Triip the Blue Jay of Autonomy Fall the Dormouse of Autumn Maggi the Magpie of Avarice Eero the Spotfin Lionfish of Avoidance Oppo the Orangutan of Awareness Anni the Arabian Horse of Awe
Concepts beginning with B, Concepts beginning with W
Inspired by @mymiraclebox
In bold are Canon Kwamis
if you have any suggestion for animals/ names that you think fits a concept better let me know.
Wonderland has Eight states and one High King or Queen of Wonderland. The Royal family typically has 1-8 children but never more, originally it was six but when a King and Queen had more than Six children they had to create 2 more different territory.
The only hereditary title is Queen or King of Wonderland passed down from Eldest Child to Eldest child. They are the supreme ruler of Wonderland. The other territories are always given to the children of the ruler of Wonderland and the child has the choice between which territory/ title they want first pick goes to the eldest and the youngest has to choose between what is left.
E.G The Queen of Diamond may have a child but the only way that child become ruler of the Diamond territory is if the Queen of Wonderland (QoW) doesn't have 8 children or one of the QoW does not pick the Diamond territory.
When a territory is picked the ruler takes the child under their wing preparing them to rule once they reach age of majority or later (the child's choice), the previous ruler much step or else their entire family ,e.g the diamond family, is executed. They also have to sign a magically binding contract when they first takeover agreeing to one day step down if the time comes.
Some Kingdoms have not been picked in many generations which is what lead to Bridget marrying the Red King (no child of the ruler of Wonderland had wanted that territory in 200 years).
The Ruler of Wonderland rules under their chosen title which is how the QoH is also the QoW, while her father was the King of Clubs.
The Eight Kingdoms are Crims (Red, receives last name Rouge ), The Black Kingdom , I'm looking for a better name (Black, Le Noir ), Marmoreal (White, Ruler receives last name Le Blanc). The Kingdoms of Hearts, Club, Diamonds, Spades and the outlands.
The 'ninth' kingdom is Underland the capital and the seat of the high king or Queen. The other Eight Kingdoms surround Underland in its entirety, Underland is the centre of Wonderland.
In fear of losing red as she lost Quinlynn the QoH kept Red in the capital never allowing her to visit the other Kingdoms like she did when she was a child. Red never taught she had a choice of titles/ Kingdom believes she needs to rule as the QoH.
As the QoH only has 2 children in the original timline when she gets Quinlynn back, the remaining territories are passed down the QoH cousins/siblings lines until they are chosen once more by the main line.
Captain Hook is born James Bartholomew Orion Jones. His last name is really Jones not Hook however after he loses his hand he embraces the name Hook. His children continue to use the name Hook even after they come to Auradon. James is the name of his maternal grandfather while Bartholomew is the name of his paternal grandfather. Orion is the hunter constellation foreshadowing his hunting of Peter Pan.
Harriet is born Harriet Vela Bellatrix Hook. Harriet was the name of Hook's mother who dies long before Harriet was born. In connection to the second star, I like to think hook really loved stars and constellations which he learnt from his paternal grandmother. Vela from the Argo Avis constellation (considered the pirate constellation) which was divided into Carina (the keel), Puppis (the poop deck or stern) and Vela (the sails). Bellatrix is for the 3rd brightest star in the sky which is also considered the warrior star.
Harry is born Harrison Sirius Canopus James Hook. Harrison to honour hooks mother again. Sirius is the brightest star in the sky and in my mind Hook's father's name. Canopus is the second brightest star in the sky. James obviously is for Hook's first name.
CJ is born Calista Jane Carina Hook. Calista was Hook's paternal grandmother's name. Jane was for himself once more as Jane is often considered the female version of James. Carina is for the constellation Carina (The Keels)
Hazel is born Calliope Cassiopeia Puppis Polaris Hook. Hazel is a nickname that stuck. Calliope comes from the Greek Muse Calliope. Cassiopeia comes from the lady of the chair constellation. Puppis is unfortunate but he wanted to complete the pirate constellation. Hazel likes to forget its apart of her name. Polaris comes from the star in the ursa minor constellation. Pirates has to calculate their position they had to recognise celestial bodies like the sun, moon and particular stars including Polaris, Rigel and Procyon which is here Polaris comes from.
Captain Hook has nicknames for his kids related to their celestial| Greek names. Harriet (My warrior), Harry (My brightest Star), CJ (My beauty, in Greek Mythology Calista or Calisto was a huntress loved by Zeus and turned into ursa major) and Hazel (My Muse or my North Star)
I am actually looking forward to seeing these two in D5 even if it is different actors. I'm curious to see how they and other villain kids such as Hazel have adjusted to living in Auradon these past few years.
Bridget: Bridget Mary Elizabeth Elsemere Amoriah Hearts of Wonderland. Mary Elizabeth as her original name and Elsemere is her mum's name in the live action.
Quinlynn: Princess Quinnlyn Bridget Olerona Ebony Demetria Hearts of Wonderland. Bridget is for Bridget obvi, Olerona for Oleron the White & Red Queen father in the Looking Glass, Ebony as it is related to Black and Demetria which means earth goddess.
Red- Princess Róisín Cerise Evangeline Bridget Amoriah Hearts. Rosin means little rose an i found it on hannahhook7744 and i just loved that as red's first name. Cerise is a light colour of red. Evangeline comes from Lovegoth240's gacha videos on her version of Bridget's mother. Bridget comes from Bridget obviously.
Pink- Princess Amarantha Corissa Euphrosyne Elysia Eileithyia Hearts. Amarantha as it is associated with pink, Corissa means maiden or heart, Elysia means blissful, Euphrosyne i also saw on Hannahhook774's page, and Eileithyia is the goddess of childbirth.
My Kwamis (Concepts beginning with W)
Arees the Lernean Hydra of War
Chii the Squrriel of Wariness
Orra the Orca of Warning
Agnii the Armadillo of Warmth
Aegiir the Sea Serpent of Water
Sliim the Zooplankton of Weakness
Lakshmii the Cornucopia of Wealth
Mii the Sloth of Weariness
Crooak the Frog of Weather
Occidenta the Bear of the West
Ajabbu the Okapi of Wildness
Wiild the Tasmanian Devil of Wilderness
Frosst the Snowy Owl of Winter
Geenie the Fae of Wishes
Barrn the Great Horned Owl of Wisdom
Hoo the Snowy Owl of Wit
Maarch the Hare of Wonderfulness
Dorri the Ostrich of Worry
Concepts beginning with A, Concepts beginning with B
Inspired by @mymiraclebox
If you have any suggestions for animals/ names you think fit better for a concept let me know.
Kwami OCS (for concepts beginning with B)
Kioon the Bald Uakari of Bafflement
Atlannta the Griffin of Balance
Eiilin the Mule of Barrenness
Lammis the Porcupine of Bashfulness
Aoiife the Fleischmann’s Glass Frog of Beauty
Genesiis the Dickinsonia of Beginning
Faiith the Salman of Belief
Celiio of Colossal Squid of Belonging
Fuu the Colugo of Besetment
Caadan the Tundra Wolf of Betrayal
Mitsuu the Gemsbok of Bewilderment
Druuj the Blue Crowned Pigeon of Bias
Zoorah the Serpent of Birth
Mailli the Krill of Bitterness
Isidoore the the Secretary bird of Blessing
Oono the Naked Mole-Rat of Blindness
Kriim the Undulate of Bluntness
Giizi the Olm of Body
Loom the Hedgehog of Boredom
Merritt the Honey Badger of Boundaries
Abiir the Bear of Bravery
Pumbaa the Mongoose of Brevity
Caiin the Meerkat of Bribery
Tantuu the Boa Constrictor of Brilliance
Ammo the Hippopotamus Brutality
Zazzu the Warthog of Burden
Concepts beginning with A, Concepts beginning with W
Inspired by @mymiraclebox
If you have any suggestions for name animals you think fit the concepts better let me know
I have already spoken about this but i feel the need to say it again naming Robin Hood's kid Robbie is plain stupid especially when he has an older brother named Bobby.
Did the new team read any of the books at all or even look at the wiki? This is so stupid.
Viserra Targaryen’s lawyer, Vaelon stand, Roslin x Edmure Stan, Pro-Rhaegar hater, My girl Elia and her babies deserved so much better
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