I want to touch upon something that has been bugging me ever since I saw the movie. Beware, I’m not inventing the wheel here, and I’m also terribly sleep-deprived. I’m just expressing some thoughts that I wanted to share.
So, did you notice that basically all the Reylo scenes up until the one where Rey stabs Kylo and then heals him feel… off? Especially the way Rey acts?
Were you as detached and alienated from her like I was, going so far as to ask yourself who this character even was?
Well, I gave this some thought.
I think that with the partial retconning of TLJ and the subsequent regression in the story, they shafted Rey in all kinds of ways, but especially when it comes to our ability to understand her actions and emphasise with her, most notably in the scenes when she is angry and/or fighting Kylo (ergo: in conflict).
Rey is a very passionate character, quick to anger. One article about her that I read (I’ll provide the link when I find it) described her as “deliciously feral”, which I think sums it up perfectly. Rey is somewhat unhinged, she reacts quickly and often in a heated fashion.
The thing is: whenever we see Rey being hostile and/or fighting in TFA and TLJ, we are provided a reason why. We get a narrative justification for her anger/violence/attacks, and it always comes from a place of compassion, a sense of justice or a place of pain/hurt relating to her past.
She attacks Kylo in TFA because he killed Han. She snarks at him in TLJ for that very same reason, and later on, after having changed her mind about him, she attacks Luke because he tried to kill him. (And then she just ships herself to him in the mail - an icon. We stan.)
But the bottom line here is:
We always get to see why Rey is angry, and what drives her to violence. We get a justification within the narrative. Her actions make sense.
But in TROS, this does no longer apply. Especially when it comes to Kylo. Because story-wise, we are beyond the fighting. Beyond the dueling. We are at the ‘reaching out, trying to find a balance and solving our conflict with words’ stage.
But since they basically ignore this whole narrative from TLJ, their dynamic is reverted to their TFA animosity. At least up until the scene where Rey heals Ben (after almost killing him, mind you!!), when it’s just randomly picked up again as if the first hour of the movie didn’t happen.
This is why Rey feels so off when she is interacting with Kylo in those scenes up until the stabbing. There is no reason provided by the narrative as to why she is so hostile to him. We expect her to act differently because we all saw TLJ. Sure, there is gonna be conflict, but not this lightsaber fight nonsense.
Their conflict at that point is not physical, it is emotional, and it should’ve been tackled as such in dialogue.
But since it wasn’t, and they just had Rey lash out at Kylo as if this was the ending of TFA, her hostility and aggressiveness come off as… well, just that. Hostility and aggressiveness.
There is no reason, no explanation, no plausible rationalisation, and subsequently no possibility for us to relate to or understand Rey.
I don’t know why they did this.
Maybe they wanted to convey the idea that this was her ~palpatine darkness~ manifesting and making her lash out. (As if her real darkness, the one we see in TFA and TLJ, i. e. her pain and anger that stem from her abandonment issues, her loneliness, her struggle with her own identity, were not enough.)
Or they just wanted to retcon TLJ and they needed more lightsaber fights. I don’t know. Either reason works and both are terrible.
Adam Driver and Selena Gomez at the 2019 Cannes Film Festival
i’ve seen this joke around and wanted to contribute with art~
-Daisy has called Adam “brilliant” and her “bestie”
-Adam has called Daisy “brilliant” and “beautiful” and that working with her is “great”
-Carried her around in a fireman’s hold BTS of TLJ
-Have hung out
-I’m sorry, but have you seen the way they look at each other?
I don’t think it’s a matter of them getting along or not.
Someone please help me understand...
How do you not have the two. lead. of the movie. NOT TAKE A SINGLE PHOTO TOGETHER??
Help me understand. Because it’s absolutely RIDICULOUS at this point.
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I would like this to be a well written post, but bear with me because it will probably turn into a rant with how passionate I am about this.
Yes, there are absolutely some really negative “leaks/ spoilers” about a disappointing ending for Ben fans. Some of them may have actually come from people who were at the premiere like they said they were, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they were true. How many years have we put up with bullying and lies from the antis? When TLJ came out, didn’t they stick to their story of how Rey would be revealed as Luke’s daughter within the first part of the film until we all started to get into theaters and see it for ourselves?
I could be wrong, every single leak out there could be true. But doesn’t it seem more realistic that they might be trying to ruin the final hours for us before the movie becomes available for general viewing? We have heard nothing but positive from JJ and the cast about this movie. They promise it is hopeful, satisfying, romantic, comedic, we won’t leave the theater disappointed, etc. Adam came out and said that his role as Kylo Ren/ Ben was an exact opposite as Vader’s. How could he say that if Ben ends up dead at the end, just like Vader did? Could they really say all those things knowing that we were about to watch the last of the Skywalker bloodline die on a big screen? Would anyone truly be happy about Rey just randomly assuming the Skywalker name? I know it is hard, but please, please try to keep some perspective. Let’s all remember that piece of advice we have heard a million times - don’t believe everything you see on the internet.
Apart from the antis, DLF does not have a history of letting real leaks live when it comes to Star Wars. Who remembers the blogger who got shut down because their theory was too close to the actual plot? If they would take down a theory to protect the film, I don’t believe they would let actual leaks stay online for so long.
And for all of you out there who have commented on my posts or messaged me directly, telling me to stop giving people hope: GET TF OFF MY BLOG! Hope is what this blog is about. Hope is what STAR WARS is about! If we let go of the cornerstone of a story, then what is the point anymore?
Moral of the story: the only “sources” you should take as 100% fact are your own two eyeballs after they’ve sat in theaters and watched this movie for themselves.
Blame this guy named tony for this ok😭
“Then they should have no problem retrieving the droid. Unharmed.
I want that map. For your sake, I suggest you get it”.
“Forget the droid. We have what we need”.
Tchaikovsky’s Romeo and Juliet Fantasy sounds
*I am a creature in a mask, fear me*
*I’ am not a creature in a mask*
“don’t be afraid i feel it too”
The map, where is it. WHERE IS IT
*Not extracting the map*
*Not extracting the map*
*Not extracting the map*
*Not extracting the map*
*Not extracting the map*
*Not extracting the map*
*Still not extracting the map*
*nope…*
*Definitely not extracting the map*
Not only the prisoner escaped, a stormtrooper helped him to escape, a Tie Fighter was stolen and the destruction of the base is quite important.
Reaction -Calm and clear :“The one from the village. FN-2187″.
The girl (who is collaborating with the resistance for the first time in her life , is not even a soldier,and is still in the base ) escaped. Reaction:
“She’s just beginning to test her powers. The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes”. “Put every hangar on lock-down. She’s going to try to steal a ship”
“ The longer it takes the more dangerous she becomes”
The longer it takes…
“ the more dangerous she becomes”
dangerous
“The longer it takes”…
“The longer it takes”…
“The longer it takes”…
she’s completely cornered… Just stop her right?
I guess when he sees her again he will be furious…
right?
*Runs towards her completely unarmed*
Furious?Mad?: Not -even -a -little
Let’s not forget Rey last name:“I’m not giving you anything”
And Rey last name: “I ship Myself to him”
And Rey last name: “I don’t know what personal space is”
“No. The Supreme leader is wise”.
You know what? You don’t need your grandfather’s lightsaber right now.You have your own red lightsaber in your waist…
Just grab it and fight..
Except that you don’t want to fight, right?
You just want her to stay with you
Okay this time, he’s really furious…
You should inform your army that she’s running away…
Boy…
You should inform your army that she’s running away…
she’s running away… inform your army
No?Okey…
Do you still have doubts about what will happen in IX?
Imagine thinking Adam Driver is ugly
I may not ship reylo but DAMN I can see why people do this MANS holy FUCK
Apostle (2018) dir. Gareth Evans