Spoilers technically⚠️
I know that Odysseus cries A LOT in the Odyssey, which is fine and ok and very healthy, but it also something hits different in Epic where we see Odysseus really lets out all of his relief and tears when he embraces Telemachus and ESPECIALLY Penelope.
I have like…0 expertise in music, but I WILL find a way to make a motif for Achilles just for me. Just because I want to. For my little hypothetical Ilion the musical.
Achilles’ instrumental motif would have to be something that can be played slowly for elegance, but also rapidly and can be distorted to truly encapsulate his rage. Something similar to how Odysseus’ motif and instrument (guitar) can be sped up, slowed down, and distorted to show his caring, wits, and ruthlessness.
Achilles is a great warrior, but also a musician. We see him drag Hector’s body around Troy, but we also see him gracefully playing his lyre to Patroclus. My current thought is that maybe Achilles’ instrument could be a violin. It’s graceful, can be played in high action scenes, and we have that lovely distortion of the instrument that can work beautifully when used properly. Oh yeah and it has an electric counterpart which Jorge can use for more supernatural moments in the story…or something like that.
i can't help laughing at the "you don't understand, this man plans for every fight!" line. because like. isn't that fighting 101. have a plan? "no no! we have to be careful! this man thinks!"
The Odyssean task of learning to draw Odysseus
Certainly not me…
who else was not expecting the context of this???????
The Iliad is a wonderful epic filled with super cool fight scenes, stealth missions, and gut wrenching sadness, but there’s this one moment that lives in my head rent free for absolutely no reason aside from slight amusement.
Not sure which book(chapter) it is, but there is a scene in which Achilles has completed his mourning over Patroclus, and if I’m not mistaken, Achilles was there for twelve days and did not eat or drink anything. Trust me this is important.
Achilles goes and he tells his mates (Ody, Menelaus, etc) that he’s gonna go out and absolutely rip Hector a new one.
Before he goes out though, Odysseus stops him and I kid you not, for at minimum half a page, our boy Odysseus goes on a whole MONOLOGUE about how important breakfast is, and how Achilles needs to at least have some meat and wine before he tears through the Trojan army and turns Hector into his personal ragdoll.
And if I’m not mistaken, Odysseus actually gets Achilles to eat before he leaves. What a guy, getting Achilles to listen to him.
Now go eat breakfast like Homer intended, dear readers. If the great, swift footed Achilles needs to eat breakfast, so do you.
a story in two parts!
So I’m re-watching Gigi’s animated snippets of Hermes in God Games, and hearing so many of his laughs consecutively made me realize that his laugh in Dangerous sounds…off. I had to pull up Dangerous and Wouldn’t You Like just to do a double take.
At first I thought it sounds different because his laugh doesn’t escalate in pitch, but when he laughs in Dangerous, it’s not even that. It doesn’t sound like a real laugh. Jorge is super particular about direction and the choices he and the actors make in the final song cuts, so I’m curious if Hermes’ laugh in Dangerous was also a specific take.
My next question then is *why*? Why does he sound so off?
“Watch where the birds fly, they will lead us to land, there we’ll hunt for food my second in command”
Says that tactful and guileful man, gentle, royal, rugged, Odysseus, MASTER MARINER, and King of Ithaca.
Ody…my guy…
The birds will lead you to food.
Seagulls gather in flocks above water when there are fish near the surface.
FISH YOU CAN EAT.
BUDDY.
RAMSHACKLE A FISHING ROD. FOOD IS RIGHT THERE. USE SPEARS IF SO DESIRED.
I adore Odysseus, but I’m losing it actively, I do believe.
Can confirm. Homer was a genius
A curated selection of my favorite details in this silly epic that changed storytelling forever. Homer is hilarious.
- Whenever anyone asks Odysseus where he’s from and he seizes the opportunity to lie continuously for several pages.
- Victims of his elaborate, entirely false backstories include: the cyclops, the suitors, the swineherd, the goddess Athena (who immediately calls bull), his son, his wife, and his father. Odysseus just loves lying
- Every time Athena makes Odysseus hotter and taller so he can rizz someone up
- His brilliant strategy to survive Charybdis’ whirlpool (cling to fig tree “like a bat”)
- When Telemachus casually drops that he is well aware that Mentor is actually Athena and she pretends not to hear and continues to act like she’s just some guy
- When Odysseus falls asleep while the Phoenicians give him a lift home, and instead of waking him when they reach Ithaca, the sailors just pick up the corners of his blankets to dump him on the shore and leave
- Odysseus subsequently waking on a random beach and spending several pages violently confused until Athena, slapping her forehead, has to appear to tell him what’s going on
- Penelope’s weaving and unweaving of the tapestry to get out of marrying the suitors. it’s so stupid that it’s brilliant
- When Odysseus goes to the land of the dead and Achilles and Patroclus appear together <3
- That time Odysseus and Athena sit down on a rock together to plot and scheme etc
- When the maid who raised Odysseus recognizes the gigantic scar he used to always brag about and he grabs her by the neck and tells her to shut the hell up. Elegant elegant man
- Odysseus’s dog who stayed alive for over 20 years so he could lay eyes on him before dying on the spot
- Every time someone says bro you’re kind of hot for a beggar and Odysseus says yeah I know right?
- When Circe was like oh dude I can’t kill you? Guess I’ll sleep with you
- “‘You bitch!’ retorted the ready-witted Odysseus”
- Penelope later calls this maid a bitch too
- When Odysseus avoids competing in the Phoenician games until one of the Phoenicians calls him weak and lazy. so he thoroughly wipes the floor with them
- The sheer number of boats Odysseus crashed
- The sheer number of times Odysseus started sobbing in public
- When one of the Suitors smacks beggar Odysseus with a stool and it takes everything in him to not go insane on them
- Every time Odysseus anonymously gasses Odysseus up
- And last, but not in any way least, the Trojan horse plan. We all know it. We all love it. But take a step back and think for a moment how delightfully absurd it is
no you don't understand
HES JUST A MAN WHO FINALLY MADE IT HOME AFTER BEING AWAY 20 YEARS FROM WHAT HES KNOWN HES JUST A MAN WHO FOUGHT FOR HIS LIFE WHO BECAME THE MONSTER TO SEE HIS SON AND WIFE HES JUST A MAN
Greek mythos brainrot is so bad that Odysseus king of Ithaka can grow mushrooms using my neurons
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