I don’t think I could survive in a world where Makima is a lesbian omg and don’t let me start with the “functional” part
im right and i should say it
debut - internalized homophobia era
fearless - comphet era
speak - fighting demons (bisexuality) era
red - first girl heartbreak era
1989 - slutty bisexual era
reputation - i hate everyone except for my gf era
lover - deadass thought i made it obvious era
folklore - shit i am a lesbian era
evermore - depressed lesbian era
midnights - cool sexy hot pothead lesbian era
The misinterpretation of the vogue article
Hetlors and Swifties claim this article is her saying she’s straight which is interesting because she never actually says that. Here’s what this statement and article actually means in the most simplest sense. It’s time for a little debunk.
She talks about advocating for a specific part of the lgbtq community and how she didn’t realise it until recently that she could.
This was In 2019 but go back a couple years which I remember during the 1989 maybe even earlier she advocated for LGBTQ people on multiple occasions. See examples below
So it’s definitely not the first occasion of her advocating so why did she say in 2019 she only realised she could recently?
Because she has advocated for bi, queer, lesbian and gay people in the past but never for trans, drag and gender queer people.
During the lover era she advocated for this specific part of the queer community heavily which she has never done.
She only realised now (2019) she could advocate for this part of the community which as a woman she isn’t apart of. She never denies being queer in some way herself but rather states I can advocate for others in this community aside from what and how I identify myself as. Or who I have only advocated for in the past.
So when Hetlors use this as a anti-Gaylor Claim they completely miss the point of this article and statement, the evidence is there it’s clear she never denies she’s queer and never asserts herself as straight. Hope this clears up the misunderstandings.
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Anybody can sympathise with the sufferings of a friend, but it requires a very fine nature to sympathise with a friend’s success.
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Hey,can you do an analyis on Mamamoo and specifically Moonsun? cause damn that hamster is gay af oh men...I also noticed that you made less analysis about girl groups...I mean where are SNSD (I saw only Tiffany and Taeyeon),F(x),Dreamcatcher,Gfriend ? Other all I think your analysis are very well done and quite neutral for being speculations.The only one I think is maybe wrong is RV Seulgi.Bear-girl isn't the most voted kpop girl by lesbian/girls for nothing hahah Keep going guys!we support! bye
For a change.. I’ll start by saying how long this took me to write. Some of the members were quiet easy, while others made a bit harder. I had the help of @punkassgroupb for this analysis! So thank you so much!! Big big help! :) Hope this turned out good and you have a good read. After all I think I’m quite confident in our conclusions.
I want to emphasize again that this is my opinion and it is okay for you to not agree with me! I’m also not forcing anything on the girls, I’m simply writing what I personally think ;)
- Masterlist of the groups I’ve done!
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Irene - Closeted Lesbian She helped me a lot with the analysis of specially Irene, since she is such a difficult gem… For Irene I still keep my opinion that asexual wouldn’t be too far of a strech but I think I’ll lean more into a closeted lesbian. After carefully analysing all the info she shared with me along with her opinions I think I’m confident to say that Irene has quite some internalized homophobia.. and that is probably why she would seem ‘asexual’. Plus, she is very religious right? That is probably yet another reason for her internalized homophobia.. I believe the even she still denies it to herself or at least tries to. It is probably one of those cases where she thinks if she doesn’t act on it she’ll be able to eventually marry a guy and be happy. Still she shoes almost 0 interest in guys, gets really awkward when she’s next to a male idol and it’s not the shy type of awkward, but the ‘get away’ type of awkward. She barely laughs at their jokes and most of the time keeps a straight or judging face (which might be of her personality but it seems to me more like a natural reaction). To girls though, she does show quite some attraction, hence why I don’t think she is asexual and believe she is a lesbian. She seems much more comfortable around girls, laughs along, talks more, and even is affectionate. At first I was a bit doubtful wether this analysis would get people to disagree, but I think a lot of people agree with this apparentely? So that made me a bit more confident as well.
Continua a leggere
Alright, let's get into Affair the Series, which has been giving me brainrot the past few weeks so feels like a good time to get into an analysis of why I find it so fascinating. Eventually I'd love to do a deeper dive into Thai GLs and that industry (that's a whole other thing though) but after having seen my share of them (Gap, Show Me Love, TSOU, The Loyal Pin) I've really found myself falling into the rabbit hole with Affair the Series and the way it depicts friendship, love, and acceptance.
Deep dive below and also thank you gif makers for your work 🙏🏽
(also will go over events from episodes 1-5, so spoilers ahead if not up-to-date)
So first off, I have read the novel, which is the first time I've finished one of those for a GL and quite frankly, the translation wasn't that great but the story still came through. I won't refer to it much and will base this on the show as I think they've done a fantastic job with the adaptation and fingers crossed continue to do so.
Where in most GLs the core conflict is external. The main couple can't be in love typically due to familial/cultural pressure or a man interfering (that still exists to an extent here) the main conflict in Affair is simply that Wan and Pleng love each other too much but they do so in different ways.
When we meet Wan and Pleng they're 17 years old and have spent their entire lives together. They're sisters but not and while Wan seems to have a social circle, Pleng really has no other friends outside of Wan. The spoiled rich girl and the maid's daughter. Couldn't be more different if they tried and yet by circumstance their lives are as intertwined as it gets.
At 17, they have different ideas for their futures. Pleng is musically talented, wins every contest and is financially set. She can live the life she wants. If she wants to be a musician then so be it. Her parents love and support her and there's no pressure. Wan on the other hand has an overbearing mother (and a resentful father), no prospects for her future but at least she has Pleng.
Despite her parents, Wan loves wholly and openly. She knows she loves Pleng and while she doesn't yet know it she does know that Pleng loves her too. I would argue that Wan truly knows herself, which is why she comes across as so self-assured in their younger years. She's slowly trying to guide Pleng to understand herself too.
Pleng, however, has never had to sit with her emotions in the same way. Take this as differences of personality, class and upbringing. Now that they're 17 and entering adulthood, Pleng has to start engaging with the world (and her emotions) rather than hiding behind the rich, insular lifestyle she's had up to this point.
As the idea of boyfriends comes up, Pleng starts to lash out. She's jealous, she's pushy but really she's just in love with her best friend and doesn't know it. Everything starts happening too fast. Wan meets a boy at an art gallery, Aunt Wi pushes Pleng to help Wan get with Ek, Pleng's dad is extremely stressed and she doesn't know to what extent and throughout that Pleng is dealing with her feelings that for some reason just won't go away. Feelings that Wan keeps bringing up in her over and over.
Pleng is a mess. She doesn't know how to connect with her peers, she knows something is wrong with her dad, she sees that Wan is seemingly moving forward in a way that she's not (dating a boy) and whether she realizes it she continues to isolate herself.
From Wan's perspective she couldn't care less about dating Ek. She's already completely devoted to Pleng (in ways that Pleng doesn't even know).
They're 17, hormonal, gay, and incapable of seeing each other's perspective. Wan wants Pleng to let her in. Pleng can't help but push everyone away.
As soon as Pleng starts to really come to terms with her feelings about Wan. That's when everything falls apart. Her dad kills himself, her mom goes into cardiac arrest, all of her family's assets are seized and she's now orphaned and staying with Wan's parents who clearly and vocally have no space for her. Pleng who was already struggling to find her footing before that fateful night now has absolutely nothing to stand on.
The break point is when Pleng finds out about Wan's academic achievements and that Wan had been hiding that truth about herself their entire lives. Wan has always been intelligent and capable but hidden herself behind a veil of ineptitude. Wan in loving Pleng puts her on a pedestal to her own detriment. She has no issue blighting her own light so that Pleng can shine but from the moment we meet 17 year old Pleng in the show we see her pushing Wan to better herself. Wan thinks loving Pleng means her own success doesn't matter whereas Pleng loves Wan and all of her potential.
They both love each selflessly but while Wan would burn the whole world to keep Pleng warm, Pleng loves Wan despite her own existence. So when Pleng leaves she writes,
"Your parents will feel at ease. And you'll finally get to live your life as your true self... I know you love me but I also want you to love yourself. And be proud of who you are."
For Pleng, her leaving is the ultimate way to show her love to Wan. A clean break. She runs away so Wan can thrive but here's the thing Wan needs Pleng to keep her grounded. Pleng does too but she can't see it at this point. Too much has happened and so, in her desperation she removes herself. She is her father's daughter after all.
So when 13 years pass and Wan has spent that entire time holding on to whatever she can to keep herself close to Pleng (becoming a doctor, riding a bike to work, marrying Ek, separating herself from her parents); Pleng has become a ghost of herself. Wan has imbued herself with all the things she thinks/knows Pleng would like while Pleng is stuck in a cycle that she can't get out of: play music, make a bit of money, pay rent, rest, repeat.
Pleng never reaches out to Wan because why would she? Her loving Wan means staying away and on top of that there's a sense of shame of what her life has become.
So when they finally meet again it's too much. Wan is successful but she's still clearly in love with Pleng and while it was all Wan's doing, in a way her success is a direct result of Pleng's influence. In removing herself, Pleng slowly begins to realize not just that she took Wan's smile with her but the why and how. Wan's changed and devoid of the joy and innocence that Pleng loved most.
They slowly fall back into their natural rhythms but Pleng still can't accept her own presence in Wan's life. Wan is back to pushing (albeit more aggressively then before - time was wasted) and in pushing Pleng, Pleng pushes back. If they take their relationship that one step further, what then? What if it falls apart? Why not just stay in a cycle where nothing shifts? What if there's another ringing shot in the distance and everything changes in a moment?
If there's one core trauma to Pleng as a character it's her desperation to not feel like a burden to anyone. Especially Wan. And then she finds out that Wan (though separated) is still married to Ek and she can't accept that she could have ruined Wan's potential happiness. Not understanding that Pleng herself is Wan's happiness. Pleng feels like a disruption because at the root of it the thing she wanted above all for Wan, "I also want you to love yourself. And be proud of who you are" is not something that Pleng accepts for herself.
I'll leave it there and hope the show navigates the situations that are about to come as well as they have so far but kudos as Affair manages to oh so gracefully skirt what could otherwise be an incredibly toxic relationship. Somehow they manage to give these two characters so much grace despite their flaws. And truly that's also a huge credit to Sonya and Lookmhee's abilities.
It's chaotic and messy but in coming back together these two might just realize that's how they both best shine.
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Thank you for being a voice of reason in a fandom of delusion. Bless
I think it's really funny that hetlors think gaylors are the delusional ones. There are certainly gaylors who take things too far and see things that aren't there, but the majority of us are quite evidence-based. It's hetlors who seem to be incapable of thinking critically about her lyrics and videos, who refuse to believe that queer flagging is a thing, and who possess zero media literacy and can't see that celebrities tell narratives that benefit themselves through actions and statements, and so instead hetlors take everything at face value because their precious Taylor wOuLd NeVeR LiE tO ThEm.
She's dancing right in front of them and they're all 🙈
it’s so sad if it’s true that she can’t come out....she could be the example for other idols to do come out,but on the flip side I get why she won’t do it...regardless of that we support our LGBTQ+supportive queen I guess
Do any of you guys think Sunmi wants to come out like right now despite the damages it could have to her career. There was for example her little slip up at that concert and her brushing it off afterwards on Twitter. It seems like she wants to come out (if she is indeed lgbt) but isn’t really considering or is prepared for the backlash it could cause
I honestly think that the concert wasn’t really a slip up at all, I think she said what she said intentionally however once it blew up herself/company e.t.c saw how potentially damaging to her image in Korea this could be so they back tracked and claimed for her words to have been misunderstood, which I think is quite a bad excuse.
Sunmi is very good at english, yes she isn’t fluent but she can articulate and structure full sentences and they make sense, she understands english, I don’t understand how you can say that “LGBT” is a side of your personality when you actually mean that “supporting the lgbt community” is a side of yourself ? That’s a big chunk of important words to miss out if you don’t want to be misunderstood, another thing to follow up with that is she didn’t even correct herself after she had said it. I understand saying it and then realising it doesn’t sound right or you’ve made a mistake then correcting yourself, but the fact she didn’t correct herself and then didn’t even speak on the matter until hours later when it was trending on twitter.
I do think she may have said it thinking it wouldn’t be uploaded anywhere and that the show was a safe place to express herself so I understand why she might have said what she did however I do think it’s somewhat reckless when there’s bound to be hundreds of people filming you if you’re not prepared to face the “consequences” afterwards, I think she may have been in the moment and blurted out her true feelings without intending to and then obviously it was too late to take back. I think she “wants” to come out, I mean most people do don’t they? We want to be out and proud and for everyone to embrace us but we also know the reality of the world is that a lot of people will not like it AT ALL, we are fearful of the consequences and our safety is more of a priority, so we keep it to ourselves or to the people we trust. So yeah I think she wants to be out (if she is gay) but I don’t think she would ever choose to jepordize her career by doing so, which is why I think she made that tweet, I don’t think anybody forced her to, I think she may have been advised to because if Korean media catch wind of it she’s going to be absolutely slated, but I do think it was her own choice to make the tweet as she cares about her image and career too much.
Honestly it really couldve been a mistake she made in the moment and maybe didn’t realise but I am somewhat doubtful about that, also if you guys want me to do any analysis posts on any solo artists or actors let me know and I can do some research and make a few :).
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This should be the sacred rule lol
i think tumblr swifties should be allowed to skip line and be the first one to get tickets just for yk being the most sane part of fandom