Ik How It Might Have Come Across.

Ik how it might have come across.

But look at it this way —

Muslims must have come along with the Mughal and turks and persians and settled in India. How? By years of massacred hindus and stole their lands. And yet their crimes are to be somehow made invisible and they are given a minority status. And they continue to commit those crimes. They continue to benefit from the crimes their ancestors committed.

Upper caste in India have committed the crime of casteism. We hold them accountable for it. There are caste based reservations to help the lower castes.

Muslims in Kashmir kicked out Kashmiri Pandits. Is that justified because they are upper caste? Do the Muslims deserve the minority status and the special rights? After all the crimes they've committed.

We don't say "not all muslims" even though they all benefit from the crimes some of them commit. They still deny us from our religious lands. They still occupy stolen lands.

Don't blame all Kashmiris and Indian Muslims for terrorism. Okay ji.

But blaming all UCs for 5000 years of history is alright? Building a system which denies equal opportunities for ordinary general category Indians citizens is also acceptable?

How does that work?

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2 weeks ago
Pakistan Again Tried To Attack Our Temples. India Has Only Targeted The Terrorists. Pakistan Is Targeting
Pakistan Again Tried To Attack Our Temples. India Has Only Targeted The Terrorists. Pakistan Is Targeting

Pakistan again tried to attack our temples. India has only targeted the terrorists. Pakistan is targeting civilians. Road to Shambhu tempe in Jammu totally damaged.

3 weeks ago

Wow how well manufactured this is smh

Nearly ten days after the Pahalgam attack, watching the various responses to said attack...part of me is shocked, and another confused. Yet another thinks that something like this is inevitable.

Too many people reacted to what is undoubtedly a terrorist attack by channelling their rage and grief into persecuting innocent people because the terrorists asked those they killed to recite the kalma, undoubtedly being Islamic in their origin.

Yes, they were Muslim. Does that mean there should be violence against innocent Kashmiri students because 'Hindu khatre mein hain"? No. Do you know why? Because a large part of why such Islamic organisations sway local sympathies towards them is by the catchphrase "Islamiyat khatre mein hain." Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Why wouldn't it? We've heard an alternate religion version of it over TV channels and so-called "news" and "leaders of the free world" screaming Hindu khatre mein hain, khatre mein hain, after all.

So many of us believe it, too.

Why, some of us may ask, shouldn't we believe so? We are Hindus, and we aren't safe even in our own land, our own country. Perhaps we should look deeper into the 'why' of it. So much of violence against us is by ourselves, for daring to be different. Lynching, beating, far more for far too less. So what if someone eats meat? They aren't stopping you from living your life. Why should you put an end to theirs?

But, then, as people who hold power today ask, what about the invaders who invaded India 1000 years ago, 1200 years ago? People whose descendants divide the country today, covet its assets for themselves? Including Kashmir, the jewel of India?

To that is my answer: If that is what you believe, then we should all leave this land. Most of us, at least. None of us are indigenous to the land we live in, except perhaps the tribes in Sentinel island. Other than that, all of us, except for the populations that are tribal/adivasis, probably migrated from somewhere else, simply some time longer ago than 1200 years.

But then, argue some, what about religious texts that speak to tens and thousands of years of ancestry? The Mahabharata, the Itihasas, the Puranas?

In that case, well, might I remind you that Sanskrit is not the single sole classical language that speaks of thousands of years of history? There is the matter of at least one other culture and language that exists alongside. The Sangam literature too speaks of thousands of years. Three whole Sangams, might I mention.

Almost every single ancient culture claims grandiose descent. We do not know how much credence should be given to any of these claims, but, if we are giving credence to one claim, why leave the others behind? Give equal credence, why don't you?

Coming back to 1200 years of "slave mentality" and "coveting territory" I will be paraphrasing words written nearly a 100 years ago by a man who identified as Kashmiri, if not perhaps Hindu, though he rather did admire the title Pandit. He very famously preferred to be known for his scientific temper, possibly a reason why today's rulers loathe this man.

He said, and I paraphrase, that those rulers are not considered foreign rule because there was marital intermixing of races and blood relations, because whatever money was made was spent inside India, because it did not go to another country (Ghori and Ghazni aside, the temple was rebuilt within 50 years, though the 'collective trauma' was first heard of in the British parliament sometime in the 19th century)

People have a beautiful tendency to syncretise, to meld with each other, to form cultures of harmony. Look at each state of India, the cultural plurality (that a homogenous overarching 'desi' identity cannot and will not encapsulate, but this discussion is for another post) especially Kashmir. There is amazing cultural syncretism in their literature, art, architecture, even notions of Kashmiri identity.

There is a unity in diversity. When is this threatened? When a section of the population felt trampled on by the 'high-handed' handling of things (in their own words) by the 'elected' powers (there is widespread allegation of electoral rigging over the years in Kashmir)

In the '80's and '90's it comes in the form of 'Islamiyat khatre mein hain' because at that point, they felt they weren't given the opportunities they should by the Indian Government. There was liberal support from external organisations, and insurgency flourished. The Kashmiri Hindu exodus takes place in these decades, and there is an element of "Hindu khatre mein hain" which is fanned by the government. The following two to three passages are from a report by Human Rights Watch in 1992, during said exodus.

A number of Hindu refugees from Kashmir have subsequently denounced the government for encouraging them to leave under false pretenses. In a letter to the editor of Alsafa in October 1990, some 20 Pandit refugees alleged that: There can be no dispute about the fact the Kashmiri Pandit community was made a scapegoat by Jagmohan, some self-styled leaders of our community and other vested interests ... [T]he plan was to make the K.P.'s [Kashmiri Pandits] migrate from the valley so that the mass uprising against occupation forces could be painted as a communal flare up.... Some self-styled leaders of the Pandit community... begged the Pandits to migrate from the valley. We were told that our migration was very vital for preserving and protecting 'Dharm' [religious integrity] and the unity and the integrity of India. We were told that our migration would pave the way for realizing the dream of Akhand Bharat [undivided India].... We were made to believe that our migration was very important for Hinduism and for keeping India together.... We were fooled and we were more than willing to become fools.205

At the same time, it is clear that many Hindus were made the targets of threats and acts of violence by militant organizations and that this wave of killing and harassment motivated many to leave the valley. Such threats and violence constitute violations of the laws of war, and Asia Watch was able to document many specific cases. • On September 20, 1989, O.N. Sharma, a 47-year-old travel agent from Srinagar found a letter written in Urdu in his mailbox, signed by the JKLF. Sharma told Asia Watch that the letter was addressed to him by name and it referred to him as an "Indian dog." The letter told Sharma to leave the valley by September 27, or he and his family would be killed. At the time, Sharma was living with his wife, two children and his mother.

Again paraphrasing words written very soon after Indian independence. "Minority communities should feel secure in their rights as Indian citizens and that is the part of the majority to ensure. Communalism in all forms is the greatest danger to Indian sovereignty as a whole."

Even today, Kashmiri rights are not ensured. The Indian Army and militant/terrorist bodies have both behaved horribly with Kashmiri women over the years with multiple documented cases of rape still pending action (Human Rights Watch has multiple reports on such cases) and so...such boiling over feels inevitable, on some counts.

The Kashmiri people deserve a voice in their own fate.

@scribblesbyavi bhaiyya, you may like to read this.

3 weeks ago

Ughhh I can't even with these sickos. But I love the way you all are responding to them.

"They named the operation "operation suhaag raat" because Pakistan made our women widows it's symbolic you guys it's very deep and profound why don't you guys get it"


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2 weeks ago

Does that lie help you sleep better?

Does That Lie Help You Sleep Better?

India violated the ceasefire as expected

I'm just so sad

1 month ago

Just putting this out there for those who don't know much about Kashmir and the conflict since quite a few marxists (or leftists) have taken the position that kashmir is occupied and should be free; Kashmir is actually the state of Jammu and Kashmir. It's a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state. Kashmir is claimed by Pakistan and China (who have even lesser claim to that region). Pakistan is a state created by Islamists for Islamic fundamentalism as they refused to share equal power with Hindus, they violently cleansed Hindus from the region they are currently occupying. Kashmiri "self-determination" has been paved by cleansing Kashmir off of its native Hindu population. Pakistan has settled non-Kashmiris en masse to Kashmir so no voting would be fair. "Self-determination" = ethno-nationalism at the cost of native ethnic groups within Kashmir. why are leftists or Marxist even supporting this? You can argue against the military presence, but if there wasn't a military presence there then that'd invite more attacks against Indians. Sorry but not sorry that we don't want our people dead.

1 month ago
100 चूहे खाकर बिल्ली हज को चली

100 चूहे खाकर बिल्ली हज को चली

Shoot us and then offer free food to get rid of the guilt or the bad karma. Those are the same hands that pulled the trigger and those are the hands that are not cutting fruits for you.


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2 months ago
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨
UTTAR PRADESH ✨

UTTAR PRADESH ✨

1 st and 6th photo credit: @desikanya ©️

4 weeks ago

If that makes you happy, so be it. How you view women and I view women is totally different. That's the truth and makes me feel okay. And goodbye to you too

Hindu traditions and festivals just enslave women and reinforce patriarchal practices, karwa chauth for example, a festival where a married woman has to fast and stay famished for whole 24 hours, NO water and food and some of them don’t even swallow their own saliva and why? for the long life and well being of her husband. Husbands are placed on a pedestal in hinduism, he is more revered than god sometimes while reducing women to obedient and self sacrificing caretakers . It reinforces the idea that a woman’s purpose revolves around a man’s needs, his health, his happiness, his survival while her own identity and agency is considered as irrelevant. In this religion women’s existence will always be tied to men and are expected to embrace such misogynistic ideals or else she’ll be labelled as a “too westernised housewife” or other names they love calling when you go against the system

1 month ago

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शुभ रामनवमी 🪷

शुभ रामनवमी 🪷

श्रीराम राम रघुनन्दन राम राम । श्रीराम राम भरताग्रज राम राम । श्रीराम राम रणकर्कश राम राम । श्रीराम राम शरणं भव राम राम ॥

Rama who is the delight of the Raghus । Rama who is elder brother of Bharata । Rama who is tormentor of his enemies । I come under refuge of God Rama.

श्रीरामचन्द्रचरणौ मनसा स्मरामि । श्रीरामचन्द्रचरणौ वचसा गृणामि । श्रीरामचन्द्रचरणौ शिरसा नमामि । श्रीरामचन्द्रचरणौ शरणं प्रपद्ये ॥

I remember the feet of Sri Ramachandra in my mind । I praise the feet of Sri Ramachandra by my speech । I salut the feet of Sri Ramachandra by bowing down my head । I take refuge on the feet of Sri Ramachandra by bowing myself down.

3 weeks ago
PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE. PERIOD.
PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE. PERIOD.
PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE. PERIOD.
PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE. PERIOD.

PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE. PERIOD.

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