Once Again Thinking Abt ORV As One Of The Most Brilliant And Self-aware Genre Commentaries Ever, Cus'

The conversations these people have are SO deranged. In the span of a single page

1.Han Sooyoung says she will seduce Yoo Joonghyuk, being delusionally overconfidant considering he has killed her once already but go off girlboss, live your #femalemanipulator #femmefatale fantasy

2. Kim Dokja looks her up and down and tells her she is 'so flat and so short being attracted to you is pedophilia & I know for a fact Yoo Joonghyuk is not a pedophile" which is SHADE that could only come from a gay man

3. They both recall the last time they met Yoo Joonghyuk. Kim Dokja casually says 'you know I beat him up last time I saw him so he probably wants to kill me lol' and Han Sooyoung strokes her neck and wistfully reminisces about her own beheading (??)

What I'm saying is that there's something very wrong with all three of them that is SO compelling. This is how you write character interactions

i’m okay  i’m okay  i’m okay 

😭😭😭

Ever think about how much Kdj must’ve played mola mola survive for him to immediately associate “dying easily” with sunfish. I just like imagining him getting mad at how easily his fish keep dying in it lmaoo

I FINISHED IT. I FINISHED ORV. it’s been a bit more than two years since I originally found the Webtoon and I think almost exactly two years since I started reading the webnovel (yeah..stuff got in the way shshsjs) I am. Umm. Hard to describe how I feel but I’m not sad it’s over, at least. Bc it doesn’t feel like it’s over. I’ll get to reread it again yknow? And as long as it lives in my head, it’ll never really be over. But oh boy do I have a LOT of thoughts. I think I made like 5 new notes in quick succession in my fiction folder today just thinking about orv. I might put some thoughts here later? (I am kind of afraid of everyone disagreeing with like anything and everything I say tho which is why I don’t post my thoughts here a lot 😭) I guess I have a few things I can say lol. Yes the epilogue converted me from a diehard joongdok shipper and casual doksoo shipper to a full on yoohankim-and-that’s-the-only-option shipper 💀 also I’m sad. There’s so much sadness in this story. Idk what else to say even though I have so much to talk about djdbsj but Ig I just wanted to say that I finished orv finally 🎉 OH ALSO orv is officially my favorite book and Kdj is officially my favorite character ever. Yeah.

I wonder how fast my morals would wither away if I was immortal and lived for like. More than 100 years. Cause for some reason I feel like life is just short enough for me to keep being who I set out to be and stay that way. Is that a weird thought??

I had a stroke earlier today and made this. YHK vs orv fanfiction. Enjoy ✍️

You know, I kinda think that Kim Dokja had actually recognized Yoo Joonghyuk as the Punisher, if not at the beginning then at least later on, but he just… convinced himself that the two couldn’t possibly be the same. Because he considers the notion of Yoo Joonghyuk becoming a girl to be something that’s impossible. We see that early on when he met Kim Namwoon in the Underworld in chapter 113:

The Delusional Demon Kim Namwoon reflecting was as impossible as Yoo Joonghyuk becoming a girl.

Of course, Kim Namwoon was confirmed to be telling the truth about reflecting on himself right away (which was a really good foreshadowing for the Punisher, lol), but Kim Dokja still has a hard time believing it because it’s just something he considers to not be possible. And he puts Yoo Joonghyuk becoming a girl at the same level. That’s how impossible it is to him. Later on, he even says this in chapter 251:

A strange feeling entered my heart. Perhaps? I had a thought but it wasn't possible. It was impossible for such a thing to come true, no matter how I thought about it.

This is right after Aileen told him that the Punisher had disappeared at the same time Yoo Joonghyuk had departed with him. While he did momentarily consider the notion of the Punisher and Yoo Joonghyuk being the same being, he dismissed it as he was still convinced that it’s impossible. And this is at a point when not only has his favorite novel become reality, but he also knows that his male ex-boss had gotten pregnant and given birth. And even in the midst of all that, even with everything he’s seen possible under the Star Stream, the idea of Yoo Joonghyuk becoming a girl is still inconceivable to him.

Now that we have seen just how deeply convinced Kim Dokja is that Yoo Joonghyuk and the Punisher cannot be the same, let’s have a look at something else. Namely, Yoo Sangah’s POV in chapter 267:

A dazzling aura burst from Yoo Joonghyuk's body. Soft hair poured down like a waterfall while his large size became a smaller and sleeker body. He took the form that allowed him to practice the ultimate Breaking the Sky Swordsmanship. Yoo Sangah stared at the scene from behind and couldn't help opening her mouth. “…Yoo Joonghyuk-ssi?”

Yoo Joonghyuk slowly turned back, his long hair cut off by the Black Heavenly Demon Sword. The lines of the face had changed but it was clearly Yoo Joonghyuk. No, it was even more than before. Yoo Joonghyuk's gaze stayed on Kim Dokja's face for a moment.

Yoo Joonghyuk transformed into his female form during the 73rd Demon Realm’s demon king selection and Yoo Sangah witnessed the scene. The lines of the face had changed but it was clearly Yoo Joonghyuk—even in his female form, he is recognisably still Yoo Joonghyuk. Sure, early on the people at the now Yoo Joonghyuk - Kim Dokja industrial complex didn’t clock the Punisher as female Yoo Joonghyuk either, but they also weren’t too familiar with his looks at that point. That’s not the case with Yoo Sangah, and definitely not the case with Kim Dokja. Another point to note is how it’s mentioned that Yoo Joonghyuk has a smaller body in this form—a different skeletal structure, so to speak.

Now finally, there’s this bit in chapter 269 when Kim Dokja carries the dying Yoo Joonghyuk away from Surya and the other constellations:

Yoo Joonghyuk was barely breathing. The weight of his body was lighter than usual. He had suffered such severe pain that even the skeleton of his body seemed changed.

The bit I want to focus on here is “even the skeleton of his body seemed changed”. As mentioned, Yoo Joonghyuk has a smaller skeleton in his female form. So he’s a girl at this point. The main difference in his appearance at this point compared to the Punisher who Kim Dokja saw previously is that Yoo Joonghyuk cut his hair. And Kim Dokja recognised him. Even if he hadn’t actually subconsciously figured out who the mysterious Punisher was prior to this, he was definitely able to recognise Yoo Joonghyuk in his female form at this moment.

So the main conclusions here are that Yoo Joonghyuk is very much recognizable in his female form and that Kim Dokja is capable of recognizing him simply with a haircut. So I personally believe that Kim Dokja was fully capable of knowing that Yoo Joonghyuk = the Punisher, but he was just so adamant about Yoo Joonghyuk turning into a girl to be something completely impossible that he made himself believe that the two were different people.

Ever think about how much Kdj must’ve played mola mola survive for him to immediately associate “dying easily” with sunfish. I just like imagining him getting mad at how easily his fish keep dying in it lmaoo

kim dokja is everything. he's just some guy. he's the kindest person in the world. he's Jesus Christ. he's also Sun Wukong somehow. he's the personification of love as a force that powers reality. he died for our sins. he's a demon. he's an angel. he's suicidal. he's the more important being in the universe. he could be anyone. he's an inconceivable existence that expands along countless of world lines. he's a nerd. he's a concept. he's just some strings of text badly tied together. he's also the prince of the greek underworld. he was bullied in high school. he's an analogy for all the suffering in the world and also everything that is human and worth saving (but there's nothing in this reality that is not worth saving and everything deserves to be loved). he's a god. he's the sacrificial lamb. he's a yaoi man. he's an eldricth horror. he's ugly. he's your friend and also he's you. he's a very complicated anti-suicide metaphor. he's adorable. he's repressed and depressed. he has ptsd. he's the father of various human and non human entities and also the son of various human and non human entities. he's an office worker. he's simultaneously loved and hated by all the universe. he's a gary stu. he's bisexual. he's a murderer and also the most tragic victim of the irrepressible machine of universal suffering. he's a lover. he's a fox boy. he likes isekai novels.