I love Ivypool!! Just because her character arc is different doesn't mean she's bad, or wrong, or evil for it.
Negative traits can be neutral traits, guys. You can't say, "I love complex characters!" But then shit on Ivypool fans because you think Dovewing is the victim automatically.
The point is that neither character is more of a victim than the other, because both characters have their own perspectives, their own arcs, and their own understanding of the situation.
You can see yourself in either character, because both characters are well-established, personality-wise, and fairly rounded characters for Warrior Cats.
But, if you want Ivypool to go, "You're right, Dovewing, I'm such a bitch, you had a harder childhood, and are living in ShadowClan because of how I treated you, specifically, which is my fault. Let's make up,"
That will never happen!!!
I really like your warrior cat opinions. I want to hear more. Get controversial. Make the warriors fandom gasp and clutch their pearls.
OMG. My takes are not that spicy, I swear! It's just that, coming from other fandoms, the Warriors fandom— is like— conservative, I guess, is the right word.
During the month I've been here, I've seen—
>a JPN Twitter fan of Warrior Cats get shit on so hard by the ENG side of the fandom for drawing Ferncloud x Dustpelt ship art that they deleted their art and issued an apology for having made it.
>the Warriors Wiki implode on April Fools' Day because the jokes were 'too offensive' for Twitter users to handle.*
(*The jokes were Smudge being a fat cat, which he is, he's plump, and a Cinderpelt getting hit by a car joke).
>that the fandom anthropomorphizes the characters to an insane degree.
For instance, one of my favorite Super Editions is Crookedstar's Promise. I love Shellheart and Rainflower, and their whole dynamic. And especially Shellheart's talk with Crookedjaw at the end of the book.
But, saying you like Rainflower (I ship her with Lakeshine, BTW) is apparently a big no-no, unless you slap a big, 'I know she's evil, I disagree with her actions, and hate her guts, what a bad mom' sticker over your post because, if you don't, you're 'abelist'.
Crookedjaw is a fictional character, they'd compare me 'liking' his mother to me being discriminatory against disabled people in real life. Like, that's somehow on the same level to them.
>that Bluestar is apparently controversial and widely hated because she named 'Brightpaw' Lostface. I seriously didn't see this one coming. I love Bluestar and she's part of why I revisit The Prophecies Begin so often.
She's so compelling, and her character arc moved me deeply when I first read it. But, any and all discussion I see about her, when she's mentioned in passing, or brought up in a comment thread— is all about Lostface! And how 'abelist' Bluestar was, and how, her being senile 'I guess *grumbling noises* excuses it' (my impression of comments I've received on Reddit).
>that Nightheart is sexist and 'misogynistic'– But, is he? Really? How do you get there. What are the mental gymnastics you are doing to get there. That's insane to me.
>That certain ships are bad because—
*Whitetail was Onestar's apprentice.
*The cats you're pairing together have any level of shared blood, for any reason.
Even if it's through a family tree that's been released half a decade or more after the book said characters were originally from.
*Fireheart was too old for Cinderpelt and she was his apprentice.
*Hawkfrost / Ivypool is unhealthy— which apparently isn't a ship dynamic in the fandom, at all. (If it's unhealthy you just aren't allowed to ship it. Period.)
*Dustpelt was interested in being mates with Ferncloud when she was still Fernpaw.
etc. etc.
>that feathers are culturally insensitive to Native Americans so everyone is banned from using them in their designs. Because— I guess— someone said not to.
Does the fandom know that not everyone is from America? The writing team is from the UK. I'm American, but I just am. speechless.
Anyway— I could definitely add more to this post, but I'll spare you. I've carried on now for waaay too long. Thank you for your ask!
I'm actually very excited about Swiftpaw and Longtail being brothers! They always had a sort of 'brotherly bond' dynamic in my eyes, so it's nice to see that being added in for the graphic novel adaptation. It just feels right.
Has anyone else noticed the 'mid-arc' creep, in the books? Like, the arc will be really good, until part-way through at like, book three or four where it just starts getting bloated with unecessary filler to pad out a book or two before the finale?
Guys, what if I just stopped using tags?
Would love Warrior Cats find a way?
Heads up guys I might change my url / layout. But, if you're wondering who this is, it's still t46006476.
People can and will say things online about Warrior Cats that you will disagree with.
What you can't feasibly do is change their mind by arguing with them about it.
It's not your job to crusade against them and to tell them how wrong they are— You are not the end all, be all self-elected moral arbitrator of the fandom.
I can count on my hands and toes the amount of times I have strongly disagreed with another fan over their interpretation of the books—
I block them, and move on.
It's not a world ending scenario if someone on tumblr thinks Cinderpelt can't be a Warrior with her broken foot, or that Queens don't do anything but sit on their asses all day.
And it's also, not a personal attack against you, it's their opinion on a book series, devoid of any relation to you.
—You are not the center of their universe, their life does not revolve around yours, and Warriors is made-up! It's fake! Not real!
Put the phone or tablet or computer down and go outside. The Internet is not real life. And there is zero reason to treat it like it is.
Here's a really unpopular opinion for you.
I think making The Manager, Nyarlathotep, was taking the easy way out for what was essentially a 17 minute exposition dump.
I think the Dark World will be great but we could've done without another Yellow (Discount Nyarlathotep = Discount John).
What if one of the cats was a magical girl and went through the sparkly transformation and had a cat costume and everything— and that would change nothing about warriors, but it would be so fun.