No More Posting For Me Until I Know What I'm Gonna Say Is What I Want To Say.
No more posting for me until I know what I'm gonna say is what I want to say.
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It's okay to say, "That's a retcon," or "That's a mistake," or "That's OOC," guys. You don't have to accept everything that's canon as canon just because it got printed.
Even if the cat's a background character with zero prior characterization, it hurts no one to be like, "No way would 'xyz' character do or say that".
Who cares honestly, what is canon or isn't canon. It's not like Erin Hunter is going to knock on your door if you don't care about the continuity of a 20 year old book series.
What if one of the cats was a magical girl and went through the sparkly transformation and had a cat costume and everything— and that would change nothing about warriors, but it would be so fun.
Ok, about Leopardfoot. Jake suggests that Pinestar has a friend in Leopardpaw whom he regularly mentions.
This is not, and I repeat, not specifying or implying that he, Pinestar, has a crush on her. Yes, as Leopardfoot, she and Pinestar have Tigerkit together.
But, I don't think, truly, that the intention is to imply they have anything going on with eachother, at that point.
I really like your warrior cat opinions. I want to hear more. Get controversial. Make the warriors fandom gasp and clutch their pearls.
OMG. My takes are not that spicy, I swear! It's just that, coming from other fandoms, the Warriors fandom— is like— conservative, I guess, is the right word.
During the month I've been here, I've seen—
>a JPN Twitter fan of Warrior Cats get shit on so hard by the ENG side of the fandom for drawing Ferncloud x Dustpelt ship art that they deleted their art and issued an apology for having made it.
>the Warriors Wiki implode on April Fools' Day because the jokes were 'too offensive' for Twitter users to handle.*
(*The jokes were Smudge being a fat cat, which he is, he's plump, and a Cinderpelt getting hit by a car joke).
>that the fandom anthropomorphizes the characters to an insane degree.
For instance, one of my favorite Super Editions is Crookedstar's Promise. I love Shellheart and Rainflower, and their whole dynamic. And especially Shellheart's talk with Crookedjaw at the end of the book.
But, saying you like Rainflower (I ship her with Lakeshine, BTW) is apparently a big no-no, unless you slap a big, 'I know she's evil, I disagree with her actions, and hate her guts, what a bad mom' sticker over your post because, if you don't, you're 'abelist'.
Crookedjaw is a fictional character, they'd compare me 'liking' his mother to me being discriminatory against disabled people in real life. Like, that's somehow on the same level to them.
>that Bluestar is apparently controversial and widely hated because she named 'Brightpaw' Lostface. I seriously didn't see this one coming. I love Bluestar and she's part of why I revisit The Prophecies Begin so often.
She's so compelling, and her character arc moved me deeply when I first read it. But, any and all discussion I see about her, when she's mentioned in passing, or brought up in a comment thread— is all about Lostface! And how 'abelist' Bluestar was, and how, her being senile 'I guess *grumbling noises* excuses it' (my impression of comments I've received on Reddit).
>that Nightheart is sexist and 'misogynistic'– But, is he? Really? How do you get there. What are the mental gymnastics you are doing to get there. That's insane to me.
>That certain ships are bad because—
*Whitetail was Onestar's apprentice.
*The cats you're pairing together have any level of shared blood, for any reason.
Even if it's through a family tree that's been released half a decade or more after the book said characters were originally from.
*Fireheart was too old for Cinderpelt and she was his apprentice.
*Hawkfrost / Ivypool is unhealthy— which apparently isn't a ship dynamic in the fandom, at all. (If it's unhealthy you just aren't allowed to ship it. Period.)
*Dustpelt was interested in being mates with Ferncloud when she was still Fernpaw.
etc. etc.
>that feathers are culturally insensitive to Native Americans so everyone is banned from using them in their designs. Because— I guess— someone said not to.
Does the fandom know that not everyone is from America? The writing team is from the UK. I'm American, but I just am. speechless.
Anyway— I could definitely add more to this post, but I'll spare you. I've carried on now for waaay too long. Thank you for your ask!
Guysss look what I did! 🥳 I made the Animal Crossing voice in UTAU!
I will say this.
Personally, I don't think Dustpelt x Ferncloud is a problematic canon ship, or a bad canon ship.
I think they're cute together, and I see no reason to make excuses for or about the Erin's sensibilities back then vs now.
You should be able to ship whatever you want without fear of saying so— and I think if people are afraid to do that, in the fandom, then it says more about the fandom itself then it does about the morality of the ship.
If you view Warrior Cats as being human-like that's fine.
—But, I also disagree.
And I think you lose a lot of the value of reading a book series about cats by moralizing their society against human standards instead of enjoying the world building for what it is.
